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Do all Solicitors live in the same World ? It seems not !

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Yesterday morning I was listening to Newstalk Breakfast Show on the Radio, when I heard an interview with a solicitor ‘ ‘a leading commercial litigation and corporate recovery lawyer in Ireland. He has represented parties in all of the significant corporate restructuring cases before the Courts as well as regularly advising leading domestic and international companies on commercial law, corporate finance and regulatory issues… also a lecturer for the Law Society of Ireland in their Higher Diploma Course on Corporate Recovery and Insolvency.” So, not your average High Street Solicitor dealing with the Citizen on an average day. I was horrified then to hear him pontificate about competition within the profession driving down costs. He made the point about all those solicitors being out of work was the factor driving legal costs down. What utter nonsense.

The legal profession is made up mainly of solicitors who work daily on behalf of the citizen. They charge reasonable fees knowing that their clients have a limited purse. This has always been the case. In fact many a time the costs charged do not even cover the costs of the work undertaken. The fact that their numbers have diminished since the demise of the Celtic Tiger has had little or no effect on the costs of providing legal services. They take on litigation cases on a no foal no fee basis as otherwise the citizen would be unable to pursue their cases. This is a fact but one disputed by the Elites in the profession who control their governing body, the Law Society who claim to represent the opinions and views of the profession as a whole. I would humbly disagree and state that this is not in fact the case. When the Personal Injuries Assessment Board, PIAB, now known as The Injuries Board was about to be imposed upon the citizen, I personally was told by the Director General, Ken Murphy, that he did not represent my views. I asked him why not and he responded that a lot of other solicitors held different views than me. So Ken, you represent them NOT me. Fair enough. Once that position is clear and known that the Society does not in fact represent myself and others like me, at least we know where we stand.

I would caution that there are a breed of solicitor who have grown up over the Celtic Tiger years and one that I take an exception to. That is the practitioner who charges a fee based on him not reading the title in conveyancing matters. It would appear to me that they are dangerous both to the profession and the citizen. We charge fees in conveyancing matters based on reading the title to the proposed purchase/sale and pass on/acquire the best title possible. Conveyancers are a particular breed of solicitor who have a lot of experience in dealing with very complicated titles. Unfortunately those undercutting their colleagues are not doing anyone a favour. In my view they are charging for a job they are neglecting to do. They rely on their Insurance Policy should a problem arise, which it will inevitably do. Who then has to clean up the mess and is criticised for charging for so doing but the High Street Conveyancing Solicitor.

Now, what do I have in common with the Elites within the profession? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Those firms that deal with the Bankers, Insurance Companies and indeed the Government. The fees charged out to these sectors are enormous and go unchallenged as they are the Old Boys Network. Don’t get me wrong. There are many good lawyers working in the Corporate sector and indeed for many of these Elites. They are not the problem or even a part of the problem. They are the footsoldiers who do the work, the daily grind. They will be used and disposed of at the whim of the Senior Partner and those whose interests he protects. Certainly not theirs. Control of the profession is essential for these Elites and the proposed changes being introduced by Minister Shatter goes some way to undermine this. Shatter of course, has his own agenda, but that is another days work. Cynically, the Elites have attempted to move the profession to action to stop the Law Society being undermined by the proposed changes in the new Legal Services Bill. Watch this space.

S0me years back, an alarming development occurred. Changes were introduced whereby the Banks and Building Societies made the decision that they were no longer going to pay solicitors to act on their behalf in the provision of mortgages. They stated that this was an added cost to the borrower. Indeed it was and one that should have been borne by the Banks themselves. The Law Society introduced what is called a Certificate of Title. This was where the purchaser’s solicitor has to certify the title to the Financial Institution and so have a liability not only to their client but also to the Financial Institution. Many of us were horrified with this development on many fronts. Firstly, we resented replacing colleagues who did a great job in examining the title on behalf of the Banks etc. The interests of the Bankers and the citizens are not the same and separate representation is essential. Secondly and more alarming, was the exposition of the profession to the whims of a rogue solicitor who could act in a criminal way and cause devastation both to their clients as well as the profession as a whole. Today we are all too aware of the number of crooked lawyers who have played the system for their own benefit leaving chaos and devastation behind them. Who picks up the tab? The High Street solicitor who can ill afford to pay up such vast amounts and who is the one unrepresented by the Elites who run the Law Society.

I personally would love to see those good people both on the Council of the Law Society and within the work force in Blackhall Place set up as a Representative Body for the High Street Solicitor and him/her alone. These solicitors need representation and we have within our ranks those good people who would indeed represent our interests. Will this ever happen ? Well, a few years back I would answer a definitive No, but today I do have some hope in the integrity of those dealing with the real problems we face and who have shown a disgust at the direction the leadership of our profession has taken in recent years. There have been local Bar Associations Groups throughout the entire country who have stood up against vested interests as of late, although their efforts at reform from within have been stymied by those holding power. A new direction is need and a new representative body must emerge in order to ensure the proper representation of the citizen in the years ahead.

As regards the other branch of the legal profession i.e. The Bar, the fate of many good independent barristers is being decided by Government in an unfair and shameful manner. I will deal with that issue in another Blog.

LegalEagleStar , Wednesday , 29th. February , 2012

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  1. How right you are Tom. I was quoted €20,000 in fees in Galway city firm, for family law work and actually paid just under €10,000 in fees to a Galway county solicitor for the same work. It seems it depends who you go to, who you know etc. etc.
    When I was a student at Trinity I was endlessly intrigued at the ‘old boys network’ in action regarding recruitment. However there always was a place for the brilliant student without connections of course, provided of course he would ‘play the game….’
    I remember the distress of one particular student, disgarded cruelly by a leading ‘family lawyer’ for his refusal to join a particular Catholic organisation… It was 25 years ago, perhaps that element has changed. Somehow, I have my doubts. The self-serving ‘elite’ will always be with us.
    Best wishes – Maura

    Maura

    March 1, 2012 at 12:20 pm

  2. The matter of fees in litigation in particular are contentious. Many Elite Type Firms charge a totally unjustified amount and seem to get away with it. The High Street Solicitor will, by and large, charge a fee which covers the work done together with a reasonable profit. Strangely enough it is usually his fees that are queried and reduced and he is treated with indignation by those in charge. Be very careful when choosing a solicitor. Make sure you engage with someone who has the necessary expertise in the area of law you are concerned with. And remember the old saying..’pay peanuts, get monkeys’.

    Many years ago, as a young solicitor, I was approached by a major political party after I was engaged by a famous Northern politician.They told me to get rid of her as a client and it would be good for business. Otherwise they’d make sure to put major obstacles in my way. I threw them out but they were true to their word. They want to control those they feel can be of use to them. Maybe that’s the reason why I tell it as I see it, regardless of the consequences.

    Thank you for your comment Maura, appreciated.

    LegalEagleStar

    March 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm

  3. I love it when you have a bone to pick Tom, I feel the fire in my own belly ignite 🙂
    The world needs you and people of your ilk.
    This is not just happening in your profession, it is epidemic in all elite area’s of life.
    More is the pity.
    I’m not sure all Human Beings realise that one day, they like me, will meet their maker.
    I’ll tell you, I want a clear conscience then, knowing, I did my best to serve my fellow Human Beings and that I did this honestly!
    You rock Tom 🙂

    irishminx

    March 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm


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